CHANGE REQUEST
Request identity number:
C00209
Applies to:
S01872
Type of request:
Technically new
Request status level:
Resolved
Proposal:
Introduce a new symbol for infrared type motion detector
Reason:
Introduce new symbol to symbol family motion detectors.
Requested by:
PT30
arto.sirvio@sesko.fi
TC3
General comments:
Comments at evaluation:
FI(ARSI): FI NC support the proposal. Normal database procedure
AT(WGAS): AT NC supports this symbols with following modifications: The qualifying Symbols should be written
- in a circle if mounted at the ceiling
- in two concentric circles if mounted at false ceiling
- in a rectangle (quadrate) if mounted at false floor
Normal database procedure.
DE(RESC): DE NC supports the proposal. Normal database procedure
SE(TOHA): SE NC support the proposal. Normal database procedure
JP(HIKE): Agrees to follow the normal database procedure.
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Secretary comment: As recommended by the VT the CR will follow the normal procedure and go to validation. The modifications proposed by AT NC should be discussed in the validation.
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Comments at validation:
FI NC comments:
IEC 61082-1 Ed. 2.0 already (see chapter 8.3) gives method to present component mounting by using letter codes adjacent to graphical symbol:
The recommended letters for mounting of components are:
H = horizontal (components mounted side by side)
V = vertical
F = flush (recessed)
S = surface
B = floor (bottom)
T = ceiling (top)
AT(WGAS) The proposal of AT NC does not produce a big number of symbols if the variations are defined in a relatet application note.
JP(HIKE): The Japanese National Committee for TC 3 (JP-NC) has concern on a procedual problem for this "Validation".
According to the rule (Validation, J.2.3, Annex J to IEC Specific Procedures), Validation voting is equivalent to FDIS voting in which no omments shall be considered. However, discussions in Validation stage are still going on. It is not apparent what kind of vote has been requested. JP-NC is puzzeld to which option it shall cast yes/no/abstain vote.
In the light of separate proposals being raised, JP-NC requests to make this change request (together with other related change requests) to work in
Extended Database Procedure
.
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Secretary comment: As noted by FI NC and AT NC can case 2 easily be used without creating a big number of symbols. However, the location shall not be indicated by a symbol but a letter code according to IEC 61082-1. The letter code shall be defined by an Application note. Such an Application note shall be defined by a new Change request. Accordingly the “basic” symbol can be approved according to the voting in validation.
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Voting at validation:
FI(ARSI): FI NC votes YES.
AT(WGAS): AT NC votes YES.
DE(RESC): DE NC votes YES
JP(HIKE): JP NC votes NO, because of the above mentioned reason.
SE(TOHA): SE NC votes YES
Requested on:
2010-04-14
Evaluated on:
2010-07-21
Resolved on:
2010-10-21
Withdrawn on:
Evaluation closing on:
2010-07-14
Validation closing on:
2010-09-30
CR00209 InfraredMotionDetector.rtf